Talk:Special Attack

To my knowledge, using brawl on any melee weapon is false, otherwise there wouldn't be a reason for keepers to choose a type 112 type sword (which has brawl) over a type 880 (which does not).

Sneak attack do not ignore armor afaik

Not sure what was meant with '*any*', but a weapon do need be brawl enabled (some do not have visible req for it).

'Backstab also locks the Sneak Attack skill a character cannot both do a back stab and then a sneak attack.' that is just not correct. changed

Since the official announcement about the addition of the backstab ability says that it -does- lock the sneak attack skill, i'm going to keep the guide as it is till you can demonstrate what patch this was changed in or I can get it confirmed some other way. I believe you are correct on the brawl ability though. I'm not sure about sneak attack, though my impression is that it does ignore armor. I'll get that double checked --Berael 18:39, 7 February 2008 (PST)

fine, be wrong then

not changing anything as that seems pointless.

That -would- be a demonstration that is -has- changed since it came out, which means I'll allow it to change. I don't resist better information simply because it makes me happy to resist it; I resist people simply asserting information without backing it up with some sort of proof. This doesn't require being snide, it simply requires proof. With a subject that has as much misinformation going around like the special attacks, I don't think we can afford people just coming in and saying anything without demonstrating where they got the information from. Now if you could find which patch that changed in from the announcement (if it was ever that way to begin with) that would be lovely. --Berael 20:26, 11 February 2008 (PST)

'Backstab also locks the Sneak Attack skill a character cannot both do a back stab and then a sneak attack.' this is exactly what you are afraid of, misinformation. So the info-police add the misinformation and all else must have proof to correct it? Makes sense... So tell me what is best: - lack of information or questionable information (in this case incorrect information)? And well I'm sorry for getting annoyed when you just assume I made this up for whatever reason. I do know this to be wrong because I actually -play- toons with backstab (and if I did not play any such toon how would I know it to not be correct? The you just claim me to be plain liar?), and anyone doing so would easy see that this statement is wrong. I doubt this ever changed after beta stage, prov me wrong if you care, I don't. AO changes all the time so claiming outdated info (official or not) to be proof is just being silly. Do you have proof that it ever actually work like you did claim (that is -in- game, not in some forgotten announcement)? If you need proof for every single correction, then I rather not care. //Basemetal 11:16, 12 February 2008 (PST)